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Science journo Chris Mooney talks sports, religion, global warming and his impending fistfight with PZ Myers:

Mr. Mooney’s most recent book is Unscientific America: How scientific illiteracy threatens our future (coauthored by Sheril Kirshenbaum).  He blogs for Discovery Magazine’s The Intersection, and co-hosts CFI’s Point of Inquiry podcast.

And he may be a werewolf. #justsayin

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Music is by Pigface and is used with permission.

  • http://youtu.be/mlrLw914Plw Joe Dixon

    The whole Mooney/PZ bicker fest (really a fight more between their fan boys through the blogs than anywhere else.) is not something I’m all that interested in. I will say this though, people like Mooney do seem to spend an usual amount of time dictating how other atheist should behave.

    Maybe my perception was wrong, but I gave up on Point Of Inquiry before I ever discovered Pharyngula because Mooney and his co-host spent entirely too much time (politely) listing all the ways The New Atheist were a threat to any sort of atheist movement. The basic under current of their argument to my ears being: “Sit Down and Shut Up.We know better.” Which just pissed me off.

  • admin

    Joe,
    I’ll have you know that I’m a fan man. And the whole PZ vs. Mooney approach to communicating has broader implications than just a blogosphere spat.

    I like POI in spite of Mooney. He’s interesting, but I mostly listen for the guests. The sort of moralizing you describe is annoying, but I’m not totally against it. Sometimes “accommodationism” is just smart. But I also think it’s very useful to belittle, mock and generally trash fools who deserve a trashing.

  • http://youtu.be/KlKKHPpM1Cg joe dixon

    Mooney comes off as perfectly nice here. And he’s wicked smart. Nothing wrong in liking him. And you’re right, sometimes accommodation is the right move. I get that. I just think (as Barack Obama has shown us) you can be too accomodating to “the other side” while they do nothing to accomodate you. And that’s my problem with Mooney. Getting liberal religious folk to like you might be important but in the end your enabling a delusion. And that delusion allows for the more hard core believers to demand more acceptance of their fantasy. Which leads us to having (as Trent Lott would say) having had all of these problems over all of these years.

  • admin

    He is very nice. That’s, like, his thing. And he’s smart. If you’ve not yet read this piece he wrote for Mojo, check it out: http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/03/denial-science-chris-mooney

    Generally speaking, I agree with what you say about accommodating delusion.

    Oh, and you should totally interview that Hitler Harvey fella’!

  • Joe Dixon

    Mr. Hitler doesn’t live here anymore. I have no idea if he’s even still in the country. However, I keep expecting he’ll run across my video and give a call.

  • thisagain

    Sorry, this guy has done some good work, but his main argument is bullshit. It’s not “unscientific feelings” or religion that hold science back, it’s politics and laissez faire capitalism.

    Even the fucking Taliban use cell phones and anything else technological that works… many of the 9/11 hijackers were trained engineers, etc.

    The reason scientific and technological progress is held back is because it’s being “left to the market,” even though real breakthroughs in both R&D and infrastructure happen usually through public funding.

    Also, there’s enough technological no-how out there already to make sure no one lives in hunger and that we could live without fossil fuels, SO… what’s holding that back? Some mythical “anti-science” attitude in the US or an economic system that puts production decisions in the hands of a self-interested elite rather than the people affected?

    • http://nanobotswillenslaveusall.wordpress.com/ Josh Bunting

      Yes, probably all of those people who cite Genesis as the reason they deny climate change are lying, I guess. And the reason some people don’t vaccinate is because of capitalism. That makes perfect sense. Two thumbs up.

  • thisagain

    ha “know-how,” sorry : P

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